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		<title>By: adrian molina</title>
		<link>http://chriskelsey.com/?p=3475&#038;cpage=1#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian molina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plenty of &quot;creative&quot; thinking musicians out there, who seem to have plenty of ideas on how to spend &quot;rich people&#039;s&quot; money to magically create an audience for their art, yet today, they can&#039;t seem to attract enough of an audience to pay $5 to hear them play at some dive in Brooklyn.

If only the masses could hear my 20 minutes of ambiguous, pan-harmonic blowing, over a 11/8, Pakistani/Macedonian inspired vamp, then they would wake up to what a corporate-controlled, arts-wasteland this country has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plenty of “creative” thinking musicians out there, who seem to have plenty of ideas on how to spend “rich people’s” money to magically create an audience for their art, yet today, they can’t seem to attract enough of an audience to pay $5 to hear them play at some dive in Brooklyn.</p>
<p>If only the masses could hear my 20 minutes of ambiguous, pan-harmonic blowing, over a 11/8, Pakistani/Macedonian inspired vamp, then they would wake up to what a corporate-controlled, arts-wasteland this country has become.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://chriskelsey.com/?p=3475&#038;cpage=1#comment-456</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only Thoreau I&#039;ve ever read is The Maine Woods. Couldn&#039;t really dig it at the time, but maybe I wasn&#039;t ready for it. I didn&#039;t get very far ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only Thoreau I’ve ever read is The Maine Woods. Couldn’t really dig it at the time, but maybe I wasn’t ready for it. I didn’t get very far …</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the same reason I don&#039;t only listen to records. Human contact has its virtues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the same reason I don’t only listen to records. Human contact has its virtues.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kurtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Kurtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s true, as you contend, that &quot;mass communication has contracted the borders of culture,&quot; why is it necessary to dispatch jazz missionaries to the hinterlands? Instead of funding a few thousand artists in residence who would come into contact with, at most, tens of thousands of natives in their jazz-deprived habitats, you ought to use mass media and reach millions. As long as you&#039;re giving away rich people&#039;s money anyway, rather than your own, you might as well do it cost-effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it’s true, as you contend, that “mass communication has contracted the borders of culture,” why is it necessary to dispatch jazz missionaries to the hinterlands? Instead of funding a few thousand artists in residence who would come into contact with, at most, tens of thousands of natives in their jazz-deprived habitats, you ought to use mass media and reach millions. As long as you’re giving away rich people’s money anyway, rather than your own, you might as well do it cost-effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Henry is not the most reliable beacon. The world was a bit simpler in the 1840s. Hawthorne called him a walking rebuke and Emerson got sick of his shit. His best stuff is about canoe trips and hikes. His Walden shack wasn&#039;t far from moms house. I used to fish there, mainly caught bass.

And his location in the family plot on Authors Ridge in Concord is pretty funny, a little stone in the corner about the size of a toaster, &quot;Henry&quot;.  Emerson&#039;s grave stone is some big pink granite thing like you&#039;d expect for Liberace.  

Hank&#039;s books didn&#039;t sell well but evil B F Skinner liked Walden enough to crank out Walden II. Now there&#039;s a recommendation.

&quot;I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion.&quot; Life of the party.

An original narcissist and perfect boomer neocon icon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Henry is not the most reliable beacon. The world was a bit simpler in the 1840s. Hawthorne called him a walking rebuke and Emerson got sick of his shit. His best stuff is about canoe trips and hikes. His Walden shack wasn’t far from moms house. I used to fish there, mainly caught bass.</p>
<p>And his location in the family plot on Authors Ridge in Concord is pretty funny, a little stone in the corner about the size of a toaster, “Henry”.  Emerson’s grave stone is some big pink granite thing like you’d expect for Liberace.  </p>
<p>Hank’s books didn’t sell well but evil B F Skinner liked Walden enough to crank out Walden II. Now there’s a recommendation.</p>
<p>“I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion.” Life of the party.</p>
<p>An original narcissist and perfect boomer neocon icon.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JLC is of a piece with Goldman Sachs. I was in Bangor in September. The olde Bagel Deli owned by Senator Cohen&#039;s family is gone. Attempts were made to yuppify the place but failed miserably.

Actually, a common element of many public and foundation grants is to propose for underserved audiences which can be defined several ways, either geographically,demographically, economically or culturally.

A good proposal has to address this stuff.But public funding is and has been wretched since Jesse Helms attacked it in the late 80s. Corporate funding, particularly among sports franchises, is noteworthy for also having requirements usually for low income urban youth. Same with McDonalds of all things.

Now that we are in a neo feudal period of maximum oligarchy, all oligarchs all the time, it makes sense that we have these huge ridiculous spectacles in some Emerald City for rich dickheads to back pat themselves. America is embarrassing. Europe does it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JLC is of a piece with Goldman Sachs. I was in Bangor in September. The olde Bagel Deli owned by Senator Cohen’s family is gone. Attempts were made to yuppify the place but failed miserably.</p>
<p>Actually, a common element of many public and foundation grants is to propose for underserved audiences which can be defined several ways, either geographically,demographically, economically or culturally.</p>
<p>A good proposal has to address this stuff.But public funding is and has been wretched since Jesse Helms attacked it in the late 80s. Corporate funding, particularly among sports franchises, is noteworthy for also having requirements usually for low income urban youth. Same with McDonalds of all things.</p>
<p>Now that we are in a neo feudal period of maximum oligarchy, all oligarchs all the time, it makes sense that we have these huge ridiculous spectacles in some Emerald City for rich dickheads to back pat themselves. America is embarrassing. Europe does it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://chriskelsey.com/?p=3475&#038;cpage=1#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(And they say I&#039;M a contrarian!)

Hey, I told you it was a half-assed plan.

Actually, if the government would tax the rich in correct proportion, there&#039;d be more than enough dough to make such a thing a WPA-like enterprise. I&#039;d greatly prefer THAT.

Ultimately, however, my main beef here is with the very idea of huge non-profits like J@LC--how they exist mostly for the aggrandizement of a very few, and benefit almost nobody they generally purport to want to help.

I definitely believe that more good comes from direct involvement, as opposed to contriving a huge edifice as a destination for a pilgrimage.

Your point about jazz not speaking to the great unwashed is well taken. I would submit, however, that your parallels with pre-20th century philosophers and do-gooders are not as relevant today as they might have been even 20 years ago. Mass communication has contracted the borders of culture to such an extent that 16 year-olds in Birmingham or Lewiston are as likely to dig Jay Z and Alica Keys as their peers in Brooklyn. 

(Of course, an unfortunate corrolary may be that those same young Alabamans or Maine-iacs [I was born in Bangor, so I&#039;m entitled] are as likely to reject Sco or Iyer as their counterparts in New York. But perhaps not any more so.) 

Hell, my father was introduced to jazz as a teenager growing up in the early &#039;50s in Waynoka, OK, about as small and remote a place as can be imagined. His guide? A visiting uncle-by-marriage from Louisiana, who essentially did for my dad what I describe in my post. If it could happen then, in the heart of Hank Williams and Bob Wills country, there&#039;s no reason it can&#039;t happen today, when boundaries separating us are becoming dimmer every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(And they say I’M a contrarian!)</p>
<p>Hey, I told you it was a half-assed plan.</p>
<p>Actually, if the government would tax the rich in correct proportion, there’d be more than enough dough to make such a thing a WPA-like enterprise. I’d greatly prefer THAT.</p>
<p>Ultimately, however, my main beef here is with the very idea of huge non-profits like J@LC–how they exist mostly for the aggrandizement of a very few, and benefit almost nobody they generally purport to want to help.</p>
<p>I definitely believe that more good comes from direct involvement, as opposed to contriving a huge edifice as a destination for a pilgrimage.</p>
<p>Your point about jazz not speaking to the great unwashed is well taken. I would submit, however, that your parallels with pre-20th century philosophers and do-gooders are not as relevant today as they might have been even 20 years ago. Mass communication has contracted the borders of culture to such an extent that 16 year-olds in Birmingham or Lewiston are as likely to dig Jay Z and Alica Keys as their peers in Brooklyn. </p>
<p>(Of course, an unfortunate corrolary may be that those same young Alabamans or Maine-iacs [I was born in Bangor, so I’m entitled] are as likely to reject Sco or Iyer as their counterparts in New York. But perhaps not any more so.) </p>
<p>Hell, my father was introduced to jazz as a teenager growing up in the early ‘50s in Waynoka, OK, about as small and remote a place as can be imagined. His guide? A visiting uncle-by-marriage from Louisiana, who essentially did for my dad what I describe in my post. If it could happen then, in the heart of Hank Williams and Bob Wills country, there’s no reason it can’t happen today, when boundaries separating us are becoming dimmer every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Kurtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Kurtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you envision it, hiring jazz musicians to live and work in every state, playing concerts and teaching, exposing people (especially kids) to jazz first-hand, would: (1) have a profound and lasting impact on local communities and (2) provide a living wage to these musicians. Being privately funded, this would not be a public works project, like FDR&#039;s Works Progress Administration; it would be charity. Yet the missionary impulse, however noble its intent, is in practice often disastrous. Look at the profound and lasting impact well-meaning white people have had in sub-Saharan Africa during the post-colonial period (i.e., the last 50 years). Their &quot;charity&quot; has been devastating. Before we exile John Scofield to rural Nebraska and Vijay Iyer to Bangor, Maine, we need to think about what we&#039;re doing. Jazz no more speaks the language of folks in those communities than do I speak Swahili. After a year, when John Scofield and Vijay Iyer happily return to New York City and resume their real careers, rural Nebraska and Bangor, Maine will probably have been no better served than Africa has been by Christian missionaries. &quot;It may be,&quot; cautioned Thoreau in Walden (1854), &quot;that he who bestows the largest amount of time and money on the needy is doing the most by his mode of life to produce that misery which he strives in vain to relieve.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you envision it, hiring jazz musicians to live and work in every state, playing concerts and teaching, exposing people (especially kids) to jazz first-hand, would: (1) have a profound and lasting impact on local communities and (2) provide a living wage to these musicians. Being privately funded, this would not be a public works project, like FDR’s Works Progress Administration; it would be charity. Yet the missionary impulse, however noble its intent, is in practice often disastrous. Look at the profound and lasting impact well-meaning white people have had in sub-Saharan Africa during the post-colonial period (i.e., the last 50 years). Their “charity” has been devastating. Before we exile John Scofield to rural Nebraska and Vijay Iyer to Bangor, Maine, we need to think about what we’re doing. Jazz no more speaks the language of folks in those communities than do I speak Swahili. After a year, when John Scofield and Vijay Iyer happily return to New York City and resume their real careers, rural Nebraska and Bangor, Maine will probably have been no better served than Africa has been by Christian missionaries. “It may be,” cautioned Thoreau in Walden (1854), “that he who bestows the largest amount of time and money on the needy is doing the most by his mode of life to produce that misery which he strives in vain to relieve.”</p>
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