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October 13, 2009

It’s Never Too Late to Have Your Soul Crushed by Some Guy with a Huge Grant From General Motors (Wait, GM Went Bankrupt? It was Probably Cecil Taylor’s Fault)

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Ken Burns' JazzI real­ize that most peo­ple inclined to give a damn saw Ken Burns’ Jazz in its entirety long ago … and that surely includes most liv­ing jazz fans, since the music seems to be grow­ing new lis­ten­ers with all the light­ning speed of those sta­lac­tites I’m con­vinced are form­ing on the inside of Stan­ley Crouch’s cra­nium. As for me, I watched a cou­ple of install­ments when it was first broad­cast in 2001, before quit­ting in disgust. 

Since then, I’ve seen bits and pieces of most of the episodes, yet I never allowed myself to see the final, infa­mous “Episode 10: A Mas­ter­piece by Mid­night” until this past week­end. Those of you to whom the phrase “tired of fight­ing the jazz wars” applies, I urge you to put on your copy of From The Plan­ta­tion to the Pen­i­ten­tiary and bliss out. As for the rest, per­haps you can commiserate. 

I wrote most of this yes­ter­day, in a state of drool­ing apoplexy.


I finally did it.

Eight years or how­ever long its been since that mutha uckin’ abom­i­na­tion known as Ken Burns’ Jazz first hit the air­waves, I finally watched the noto­ri­ous “Episode 10: A Mas­tur­ba­tion … I mean, A Mas­ter­piece by Mid­night,” wherein Burns and his jolly crew of self-serving revi­sion­ist idiots Bran­ford, Crouch and Cus­cuna, et al tell the bogus tale of how jazz was mur­dered in the ‘60s and ‘70s by craven fusioneers and face-painted avant-gardists, and how it was res­ur­rected by … well, by impli­ca­tion, the self-serving revi­sion­ist idiots them­selves, and by direct attri­bu­tion, their faux folksy fab­u­list trumpet-playing sock pup­pet, Wyn­ton Lear­son Marsalis.

For years, I put off watch­ing this thing the way a Jew­ish film critic might put off see­ing Tri­umph of the Will, know­ing that I’d even­tu­ally have to hold my breath and watch it, if for no other rea­son than to ful­fill the oblig­a­tions of my profession.

Mets ChokeThe time finally came Sun­day. The Mets’ sea­son had ended, the Yan­kees (to my deep­est cha­grin) had kicked the crap outta the Twins in the first round of the play­offs, and the only thing on TV was foot­ball for as far as the eye could see. The voice in my head that’s always scream­ing out ran­dom lot­tery num­bers yelled, “HEY, DIPSHIT, NOW’S A GOOD TIME TO WATCH CHAPTER 10 OF THAT BURNS THING. SEE YOU IN HELL! HA HA HA HA HA!”

Has the voice ever been wrong?.

So I fired-up the Net­flix and started watch­ing. I took in as much as I could in one sit­ting, turned it off, kicked my dog, yelled at the kids, went to bed, got up and watched the rest this morn­ing. God help me, it’s gonna take me weeks to get over this.

So much rage, so lit­tle time, so I’ll just touch on a cou­ple of par­tic­u­larly appalling elements.

King of JazzBurns’ puppydog-like eager­ness to anoint Wyn­ton the suc­ces­sor to Arm­strong as “The King of Jazz” would be be com­i­cal if it weren’t so insult­ing to the many great musi­cians who are either ignored or – in at least one egre­gious case – explic­itly dis­par­aged. The film­maker spends a lot of time fol­low­ing Arm­strong and Elling­ton around dur­ing their last years (because, after all, who else was mak­ing impor­tant music in the early ‘70s? Accord­ing to Bran­ford Marsalis, nobody except a few of his bop-playing men­tors). At a cer­tain point, a bored Burns marks time, evi­dently anx­ious for Pops and Duke to die in ’71 and ’74 so he can skip ahead (past the likes of Bill Evans, George Rus­sell, Weather Report, Sam Rivers, Jack DeJohnette, Arthur Blythe, Keith Jar­rett, and any­one Euro­pean) to the night Art Blakey hired the teen-aged Wyn­ton, an event Burns treats like the com­bined birth and res­ur­rec­tion of Christ.

Only a little bit of the reason ...Equally barf-inducing is Burns’ search for clues as to why jazz ceased being pop­u­lar in the ‘60s and ‘70s (actu­ally, it hadn’t been pop­u­lar since the ‘40s, but that incon­ve­nient truth runs counter to the Burn­salis agenda), a process that engages him for much of the first three-quarters of this one-hour-fifty-minute cir­cle jerk. Guess who’s at fault? If you said the Bea­t­les Yummy Gumboand/or “The Man,” you get par­tial credit. How­ever, if you said The Art Ensem­ble of Chicago, Cecil Tay­lor, and their avant-hooligan friends, you can go to the mutha uckin’ head of the class and let Pro­fes­sor Short­hair Marsalis lay some o’ that tasty gumbo on y’all … ‘cuz ya’ll know that Prof likes his gumbo! Mmm-mmm-mmm!

The film’s none-too-subtle bash­ing of avant-garde and fusion musi­cians has the remark­able qual­ity of mak­ing me want to gouge out my own eyes with one of those pointy spoons you use to eat grape­fruit. Tar­geted for super­fi­cially respect­ful yet ulti­mately shabby treat­ment are the afore­men­tioned Art Ensem­ble of Chicago and Cecil Taylor.

Both get hit for exces­sive arti­ness. Burns’ solemn nar­ra­tor tells us that, appar­ently despite the fact that they’d taken to wear­ing African-inspired garb on stage, “… noth­ing the Art Ensem­ble of Chicago, or any other avant-garde black coop­er­a­tive did, seemed able to win back the black audi­ence .” France also likes JerryWorse, the group “attracted its largest fol­low­ing among white col­lege stu­dents … in France,” the final word spo­ken with just the proper hint of incred­u­lous, Franco-phobic dis­gust. Ah, well played, Mr. Boo-urns!

As for Tay­lor, he comes in for the harsh­est words of any musi­cian in the entire series, cour­tesy of the gad­fly punk Bran­ford Marsalis. (Some­one please tell me: just how in hell did Bran­ford ever get the rep­u­ta­tion he enjoys as the “open-minded” Marsalis? Because he played with Sting 25 years ago? Puh-leeze. The guy’s always been will­ing to cash a pay­check. He’s every bit as arro­gant and artis­ti­cally big­oted as his next-youngest brother.) Bran­ford is asked about a state­ment Cecil once made to the effect that he (Cecil) pre­pares for his con­certs, so the audi­ence should pre­pare, as well. Appar­ently it did not occur to Bran­ford Marsalis-Super Genius that Tay­lor might have sim­ply been sug­gest­ing that lis­ten­ers open their minds and dis­card pre­con­cep­tions as a way of engag­ing his – or any other inno­v­a­tive artist’s – work. No. The All-Knowing-and-Judging “open-minded” Marsalis has a dif­fer­ent interpretation:

Branford Marsalis“That’s total self-indulgent bull­shit as far as I’m con­cerned. I mean, you know, I love base­ball. I mean, I’m not going to go and catch a hun­dred grounders before I go to a game. I mean, that’s what … we pay to see them do what they do and to appre­ci­ate them. I mean, why would the audi­ence sit around and prac­tice and pre­pare? I mean, they pay their money to hear what it is that we do and to appre­ci­ate what it is that we do.”

So Branny-cakes, you actu­ally believe that Cecil was ask­ing his audi­ence to prac­tice piano before lis­ten­ing to his music? Really? Or maybe brush-up on some quan­tum physics? Are you a moron? C’mon, you can tell me. I won’t breathe a word to any­one, I promise.

Someone’s full o’ shit here, and it ain’t Cecil Tay­lor. I’m bet­ting it’s not the stu­dents who Bran­ford so recently and famously derided, either.

Stan the ManOth­ers played roles in bring­ing this turgid waste of cel­lu­loid to com­ple­tion. Stan­ley Crouch blovi­ates, as he’s wont to do. Michael Cus­cuna comes off as espe­cially ridicu­lous. His con­tri­bu­tion to Burns’ Wyn­ton hagiog­ra­phy at film’s end – “Wyn­ton was the, the first new acoustic jazz player with some­thing to say,” as if such slightly older and self-evidently superb straight-ahead jazz musi­cians as Bobby Wat­son, Ricky Ford, Tom Har­rell, and so on were noth­ing but place-holding hacks wait­ing for the emer­gence of The Cho­sen One – is one of the most absurd lines in a film that’s pos­i­tively stuffed to the gills with ‘em. One hopes Cus­cuna regrets the utterance.

To give credit where it’s due, Gary Gid­dins takes up the cause of the out­cats with some suc­cess, although his repeated asser­tion that one has to “work” to get much of that music is mis­guided, IMO (bet­ter to view it as a sus­pend­ing of expec­ta­tion, which is an act of lib­er­a­tion, not man­ual labor). Joshua Red­man also implies a predilec­tion for open­ness. For the most part, how­ever, “A Mas­ter­piece by Mid­night” is a small-minded attack on any­one to the musi­cal left of the Marsalis broth­ers, as well as a coro­na­tion of Ellis’ sec­ond heir as Mas­ter of the Realm.

But it’s over, and those who think the Marsalis take is fine and dandy will have their way. What’s done is done, and the Burns film stands – tee­ter­ing on a decay­ing foun­da­tion of self-congratulation and mis­rep­re­sen­ta­tion – as the defin­i­tive film his­tory on the subject.

One thing I know, how­ever. Hard core jazz folk are too smart and too pas­sion­ate to let this dreck gunk-up the joint for­ever. Some­day a gifted, jazz-loving direc­tor will make a qual­ity filmed his­tory of jazz (espe­cially post-1950s jazz) – someone who, unlike Burns, actu­ally knows some­thing about the music and there­fore won’t have to rely on a gath­er­ing of self-promoting oppor­tunists to tell the story for him or her. The music deserves that much.

Crazy Cat LadyMaybe by that time, “A Mas­ter­piece by Mid­night” will be Jaz­zs­peak for “crazy old lady in the cor­ner talk­ing to her cat in esperanto.”

(Photo of Bran­ford Marsalis by Tom Beetz)
  1. You crack me up. I don’t always agree with you but I always enjoy read­ing you. Love the gumbo pic. 

    Re: that post-50s jazz film: Might “Icons Among Us” fit the bill, or part of the bill? I saw a shorter the­atri­cal ver­sion of this 4-hour series last week. Look­ing for­ward to the whole thing, which (say the direc­tor and pro­ducer) will be avail­able on DVD by Jazz Fest next year.

    http://www.iconsamongus.com/

    Have you seen Chris Felver’s film about Cecil Taylor?

    Comment by Pamela Espeland — October 13, 2009 @ 9:20 pm
  2. Wow, Chris! As one who has openly stated that I am “tired of fight­ing the jazz wars”, let me be the first to say that I love this piece. Even though I was recently called a “peace­maker” on the sub­ject (a title which I rel­ish, BTW), I can’t help but love a good vol­ley off the star­board bow of the Burn­salis clan (great word). I may not share all of your vit­riol, but I can appre­ci­ate your posi­tion and the clear state­ment thereof.

    The clincher, for me is your line refut­ing hav­ing to “work” to get the music — “bet­ter to view it as a sus­pend­ing of expec­ta­tion, which is an act of lib­er­a­tion, not man­ual labor”. This is pure gold, and exem­pli­fies the posi­tion we need to take if we are to counter all the doom-and-gloom Tea­choutol­ogy (how’s that one???).

    Comment by Jason Parker — October 13, 2009 @ 9:33 pm
  3. Dear Mr. Kelsey,

    How dare you crit­i­cize any of the cin­e­matic and musi­cal geniuses con­nected with this project? Per­haps, sir, when YOUR foun­da­tion brings in the untold mil­lions that Mr. Marsalis’s efforts bring in to sup­port Jazz, America’s Clas­si­cal Music ™, then and only then will I be inter­ested in your bit­ter ramblings. 

    For myself, I fall to my knees and thank Buddy Bolden’s ghost that America’s Clas­si­cal Music ™ has been res­cued from the face-painting avant-hippies and hip-hop-hep-cats who are try­ing to drive this music into the ground. Jazz, like fine wine and tax shel­ters, is meant to be enjoyed by the edu­cated elite. If it were music for the masses, sir, don’t you think the masses would be lis­ten­ing to it? 

    I was sent to your exe­crable site by an arti­cle in the Wall Street Jour­nal (“Bit­ter Blower Blas­phemes Burns,” Oct. 13, 2009). I must say I regret the trip. 

    Yours dis­gust­edly,

    Sid­ney Slouch

    Comment by Sidney Slouch — October 13, 2009 @ 10:35 pm
  4. You are say­ing so much of what I thought when I saw this doc­u­men­tary! Thank you!

    Comment by Susan Kay Asher — October 14, 2009 @ 12:45 am
  5. Aah yes, the lit­tle nos­tal­gia dink from New Hamp­shire col­lides with the Clarence Thomas of the Trum­pet in the early days of the Bush wreck­age and lo..it sucks.

    I never saw more than a snip­pet or two as I loathe Teevee and don’t own one but talk about an exer­cise in wish ful­fill­ment. The nos­tal­gia gnome did kill it and took down the small niche of music biz that exploited it.

    There’s a funny cor­re­la­tion with jazz sales and the Burns Shadow. While it churned, the denizens of the national mid­dle brow went off and bought up all the cadav­ers they could find and fig­ured that’s it.

    To me the reac­tion against the so called avante garde has always been the purest racism imposed by the same lazy baby boomers who now are busily ensur­ing our econ­omy will be toast until at least 2015. 

    Here’s what I mean. I was drawn to the idiom because I sensed it is a hold­fast for the high­est aspi­ra­tions of the African Amer­i­can intel­lect. Until the poten­tials of this intel­lect are hon­estly rec­og­nized, us white folks still basi­cally suck.

    While I’ll allow that the nation has been conned into dys­func­tional slack jawed buf­foon­ery in the race to make walk­ing profit cen­ters of the cit­i­zenry with scorn for the intel­lect, we still respect it if some­one makes a lot of money.

    How come it is okay and even laud­able for Stock­hausen, Boulez and all man­ner of other white peo­ple to crank out the most arcane, abstruse sonic archi­tec­ture imag­in­able and it is some­how held in the same regard as a NASA manned flight to Mars?

    But if Cecil or any­one of ‘color’ goes and aspires to the same thing it gets sav­aged by lazy half wits?

    Comment by Chris Rich — October 14, 2009 @ 5:15 am
  6. Accus­ing crit­ics of avante garde music as being racist is the same as accus­ing a critic of Israel of being anti-semitic. Both accu­sa­tions always skirt the real issues. In fact, I found your com­ments to be typ­i­cal of white guilt. Guilt over what I have no idea. Racism imposed by the baby boomers my ass. It was the boomers, for bet­ter or worse, who helped to end racism in Amer­ica by being socially active, unlike the mem­bers of gen­er­a­tion X who’ve done noth­ing but bitch and moan about what the boomers have done or haven’t done, while doing absolutely noth­ing them­selves except bitch and moan. 

    While I think that Wyn­ton Marsalis, brother Bran­ford, Stan­ley Crouch and the like, are not the true rep­re­sen­ta­tives of jazz, in fact, I can’t stand Wynton’s snob­bery, nei­ther are the avante garde musi­cians. I know enough of them to know that they are among the most self-indulgent play­ers I’ve ever heard. Many of them can play, but more of them use the cacoph­ony of their sounds to dis­guise the fact that while they seem to know their chords and scales well enough, they sim­ply can’t play a song to save their lives. As Miles Davis once said, play­ing a bal­lad is the hard­est thing to play. None of these guys can play one with­out reveal­ing their glar­ing weak­nesses of tone and tech­nique, and most of all, feeling. 

    The other thing that has annoyed me about avante garde musi­cians is how often they com­plain about musi­cians who are mak­ing money. They are “sell-outs”. They claim to play for the art and not care about the money, but always bitch about those who do make money. You want to make money? Then play what most peo­ple want to hear. It’s that sim­ple. If that idea offends your sen­si­bil­i­ties, then just play your noise and shut the hell up. 

    Too many avante garde play­ers have the atti­tude that what they are doing is head and shoul­ders above, intel­lec­tu­ally, spir­i­tu­ally and emo­tion­ally above any­thing else that’s being done by other musi­cians. They are unhappy that so many peo­ple are not on their supe­rior wave­lengths. They are seri­ously self-delusional on this matter.

    Stop blam­ing racism or some other “ism” as being the blame for avante garde musi­cians not being excepted by the “masses”. It’s not accepted by the masses because it has no appeal to any­one except pseudo-intellectuals who lie to them­selves and think that these guys are the voices of God.

    Comment by Chris Poor — October 14, 2009 @ 8:52 am
  7. We have a con­fla­tion. Scrib­blers who actu­ally write about the music are doing their level best. The racism is at the broader cul­ture level with the idea that it’s okay for europoids to have abstruse sonic arti­facts because that’s just their cut­ting edge genius.

    But for some rea­son, an effort toward the same pos­si­bil­ity housed in an African Dias­pora aes­thetic is wrong. 

    The masses aren’t too psy­ched about Boulez either but he gets a pass cause it’s impor­tant white folk stuff. 

    There is no require­ment to make masses happy in this game, that’s called enter­tain­ment and there are plenty who will fig­ure out some way to enter­tain, a wet t shirt con­test will cover a lot of ground there with­out the bother of hav­ing music at all.

    I have a sense a water­shed change is under­way. The entire pop­u­lar music indus­try is on the skids, fern bars are clos­ing, news­pa­pers are fir­ing music writ­ers and going out of busi­ness. Radio belongs to Rush. 

    The future is prob­a­bly a reunion with pre music biz real­i­ties. It will be about mov­ing through com­mu­ni­ties and con­nect­ing to peo­ple directly with­out all the medi­a­tors and min­ders. CD’s, if they con­tinue will be glo­ri­fied biz cards.

    Comment by Chris Rich — October 14, 2009 @ 10:10 am
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  9. Nice to read a lit­er­ate back-and-forth. Such things can­not be found on Facesh­nook, Twit­ter, etc. In any case, I have spo­rad­i­cally suc­cumbed to the zeit­geist and tried to watch the Burns parade as it drifted by. I could never deal with more than a few minute’s worth as, from the very begin­ning it was clear that the guy has a tin ear. Tin, in this case, bespeak­ing a nar­row­ness and lack of cre­ativ­ity that results in a gru­el­ing bland­ness. I force-fed myself the jazz series, as I’m a jazz musi­cian and a part of me was happy to see clips of my var­i­ous heroes on pub­lic dis­play. Unfor­tu­nately, the goal of the talk­ing heads heads was to enshrine (reify?) the canon. Enshrine­ment is eas­ier than the chal­lenge of bring­ing to your film the kind of vivid­ness, color and joy that must have been felt by those who heard the Eldridge 78 “After You’ve Gone” in the late 30’s.

    Comment by Steve Provizer — October 14, 2009 @ 3:24 pm
  10. Thanks every­one for your input. Pamela, I’ll check that out. This is the first of heard of both the Cecil film and “Icons.” I’ll check ‘em both out, post-haste. Thanks for the heads up!

    Like the term, Jason P., although I think Mr. Tea­chout gets a bad rap – a bit of “kill the mes­sen­ger,” I think.

    Remark­able job of styl­is­tic mim­icry, there, Jason C! LOL!

    Chris R., you make good points.

    Chris P., I think we’re com­ing from rad­i­cally dif­fer­ent places, but thanks for your contribution.

    Thank YOU, Susan!

    And Steve, I really love your final sen­tence; it says it all.

    Comment by admin — October 14, 2009 @ 3:40 pm
  11. Us euro­mutts have strange philo­soph­i­cal afflic­tions and the most rel­e­vant one for the Burns prob­lem is the Aquinas obses­sion with ‘quintessence’. 

    It causes peo­ple to do strange things like make excru­ci­at­ing cliche larded doc­u­men­taries in some pathetic effort to catch this elu­sive quin­tes­sence thing in a silly but­ter­fly net.

    To me, all jazz has always been a look at the indi­vid­ual who makes some bit of it to see how their expe­ri­ence and enchant­ments shaped their part of it. 

    Try­ing to decide if Hank Mob­ley is more bitchin’ than Dex­ter Gor­don is a shal­low fools errand along­side get­ting to savor each on their terms. Of course Bobby Wat­son and all man­ner of oth­ers mat­ter and are note­wor­thy. Wynty just tried to hijack the thing for his own per­sonal enrich­ment and self aggrandizement.

    Imag­ine a may morn­ing day walk in some glow­ing nature sanc­tu­ary and a Pileated Wood­pecker flies by…wow..striking. Your inter­est is the phe­nom­ena of the moment that brought you there in a coin­ci­dence with an unusual,large strik­ing bird. 

    Do you sit around and try to decide if it is a bet­ter Pileated than another one you saw years ago or do you just count your­self lucky to have the encounter? 

    And so it goes with the liv­ing unfold­ing part of this music being faith­ful to its time and poten­tial. The motive that brings me to that sanc­tu­ary is akin to the one that puts me in a gallery show here where Jim Hobbs, Jacob William and Luther Gray are run­ning a trio. It is a strik­ing wealthy sonic eco­tone to savor in the moment.

    And expect­ing it to enter­tain me is as ridicu­lous as expect­ing the wood­pecker to. Cobain had that funny lyric..we are stu­pid and contagious..here we are now..entertain us. No won­der the shot­gun beckoned.

    Comment by Chris Rich — October 14, 2009 @ 4:21 pm
  12. I was in the Colum­bia lab when the Marsalis Mon­ster was cre­ated, and when I first heard it utter jazz, I thought it might actu­ally learn to speak with some flu­ency and, per­haps, inven­tion. I was ever so wrong.

    Your take on the Burns rewrite is ever so right, but where were the vil­lagers when we needed them? I was ready, I lit my torch and swore off the gumbo, but the beast lives on and the music is non the richer for it.

    Drool­ing apoplexy becomes you, Chris.

    Comment by Chris Albertson — October 15, 2009 @ 8:57 am
  13. Chris A., you were there?! Wow. Kinda like being in the room with Hin­den­berg when he struck the deal with Herr Schickl­gru­ber! (Ok, maybe that’s goin’ too far … maybe.)

    I’m a jam­bal­aya man, myself.

    Thanks, Chris(es)!

    Comment by admin — October 15, 2009 @ 9:09 am
  14. My post above notwith­stand­ing, I dis­agree with Chris A. W.Marsalis deserves to be rec­og­nized as a player. As a trum­pet player myself, when I hear him play “Chero­kee,” I’m aston­ished. I advo­cate sep­a­rat­ing the art from the artist.

    Comment by Steve P. — October 15, 2009 @ 11:58 am
  15. To Mr.Chris Poor,..

    Your say­ing we accuse peo­ple that are mak­ing money of being sell-outs,.then sug­gest if we want to make money,.we should just play what the peo­ple want to hear,..

    So your ask­ing peo­ple to play music that’s not nat­ural to them to get paid,.your say­ing they should actu­ally “sell-out”.
    I don’t see why some­body shouldn’t be able to get some­thing back for their work,.If your Really,really out,.sure,.you should expect that many peo­ple wont hear you,.but many musi­cians are dis­missed under the cat­e­gory of avant garde who are not all that out,.and should be able to make more than noth­ing when some peo­ple are get­ting way to much.The bal­ance is off,.just Like every­thing in this country.Either way,.to play music that is not nat­ural to you is twisted,.and to play with the idea of get­ting paid as your rea­son for play­ing even more twisted.Musicians com­plain mostly not because there not rich,.like Wynton,.but because they cant get any­thing hap­pen­ing at all,..zero.Some musi­cians take their devo­tion to Liv­ing only by their music to the extreme,.and will even be will­ing to be home­less over what I’m talk­ing about here.I respect that myself..

    you also sug­gest that were trip­ping by plac­ing our­selves
    “above” every­one on all levels..

    I don’t know any­body that’s out there say­ing that,.It’s more about peo­ple hav­ing a strong belief in what their doing.why would that bother any­body per­son­ally? If you don’t like that vibe,.You don’t have to lis­ten to that person’s music or read any­thing they write.Change the chan­nel as George Car­lin used to say.You may have touched on some­thing there,.but you would have to do a group psy­cho­log­i­cal study to come up with per­son­al­ity flaws that some of us may have cre­ated in order to main­tain a per­spec­tive where we don’t,..sell out..(Anybody
    that’s spir­i­tual should have their Ego intact.)

    you then sug­gest the only peo­ple who “get it”,.are wanna be intellectuals,.tripping on people,.convinced that they rep­re­sent the voice of God or,.something Spiritual…

    This dis­cred­its many peo­ple who play music that is sim­ply spir­i­tual in nature.Playing music like that is not some­thing that you choose to do,.or learn in school.In other words,.there are peo­ple play­ing music that actu­ally has deeper meaning,.and there are peo­ple who hear it,.and it may have impact on them in a pos­i­tive way.It’s based on feeling,.not an intel­lec­tual trip.Yes,.there are also,.people who play very intellectually,.and peo­ple who hear them on that same thing,.almost like musician-scientists,.or chemists,.but if a musi­cian is reach­ing a Lis­tener in some way,.I don’t see why any­body would have a beef with that..All musi­cians who mean what they say want to be heard and under­stood in rela­tion to what is that there try­ing to do,.and who they are,..I would think anyway,..

    Comment by matt Lavelle — October 15, 2009 @ 9:32 pm
  16. Wyn­ton as a trum­pet player,..I saw a “cut­ting con­test” at Lin­coln cen­ter in the mid 90’s..It was Wynton,N.Payton,R.Hargrove,Wallace Roney,and Red Rodney.Then it was JALC vs Jon Fad­dis and the Carnegie hall Big band.

    W asked the audi­ence where Lester Bowie was and said he had his “knife out”,.musically.It was then on Chero­kee that W made his move on everybody,.by what he did on the Bridge,.It was From the tech­ni­cal side,.impressive,.it was over the top trum­pet wise,.some Raphael Mendez shit!.…NP and RH played crowd pleas­ing stuff on Just Friends…But believe it or not,.it was Red Rod­ney on “every­time we say goodbye”,..on Flugel,.that really “won”..

    Jon Fad­dis and his band CRUSHED JALC,.By doing a full orches­tra­tion of Miles solo on “I didnt know what time it was”,.and then invit­ing W to bat­tle their whole trum­pet sec­tion on donna Lee.James Carter was with JALC and he “reversed” Paul Gon­slaves solo from Peanut-butter Brigade,
    and Wyn­ton told the audience,..“on effects,..James Carter”..

    Their was a tenor bat­tle as well,..Joshua Red­man “defeat­ing” everybody.Noted that David Mur­ray was there and play­ing as Out as he can.

    My thing about W on trum­pet is that he actu­ally is more out than most peo­ple think,.Ive heard him take real chances.Maybe when every­one thinks your the best,.You can try what­ever the hell you want and get away with it,.because If your the one doing it,.then it must be the shit.I heard W end a bal­lad out of tune on a quar­ter tone on purpose,.and play a Bb long tone over changes for a whole bridge and not resolve it,.(I know,.scary shit,.right?)..He has enough chops to play what­ever he wants,.so It’s his musi­cal choices that show you where he’s com­ing from.Check the long inter­view W did with the Bad Plus at “Do the Math”,.It’s all technical,.

    Comment by matt Lavelle — October 15, 2009 @ 9:55 pm
  17. It’s all tech­ni­cal, indeed. Well, per­haps not all, but I have never for a moment expressed doubts about Wyn­ton as a trum­pet player — he knows the instru­ment and has the tech­nique down. It is the soul that I find lack­ing, and what is jazz when more or less played by the num­bers? I don’t know, but it ain’t jazz as I fell in love with it over 60 years ago. Also miss­ing from Wynton’s per­for­mances (with few excep­tions) is esthet­ics — imho, he some­times tries much too hard to make a per­sonal statement.

    Of course, we would not be hav­ing this dis­cus­sion were it not for Wynton’s mostly arti­fi­cial promi­nence. The truth is that there are and have been a num­ber of trum­pet play­ers who leave him in the dust.

    Comment by Chris Albertson — October 16, 2009 @ 8:04 am
  18. I was in the room when Paul von Hin­den­burg struck the deal with the man you stu­pidly call Herr Schickl­gru­ber, and must point out two fac­tual errors in your state­ment. First, the ail­ing 85-year-old pres­i­dent of Ger­many specif­i­cally requested that we record his name as Hin­den­burg, not Hin­den­berg as you so care­lessly mis­spell it. Sec­ond, the newly appointed Chan­cel­lor was named Hitler, not Schickl­gru­ber. His father, Alois, bore that sur­name until 1876, when he legally took his stepfather’s fam­ily name. Adolf, born 13 years later, was never known as Schickl­gru­ber, except to Allied pro­pa­gan­dists dur­ing World War II attempt­ing to dis­credit the Führer by asso­ci­at­ing him with a moniker that struck Anglo-American ears as com­i­cal. The fact that you repeat this cheap smear tac­tic 64 years after Hitler’s death shows both your con­tempt for his­tor­i­cal accu­racy and your lack of imag­i­na­tion. But then, what should we expect from a musi­cian so des­per­ate to insult Wyn­ton Marsalis that he equates the trum­peter with a mass mur­derer? I sug­gest that you start tak­ing your meds again, Kelsey. Right away.

    Comment by Alan Kurtz — October 16, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
  19. Jawohl, Herr Oberst! (Damn, I have to start run­ning spell check on my comments … )

    Comment by Chris — October 16, 2009 @ 3:00 pm
  20. Is Blog Troll Kurtz ever pos­i­tive about any­thing? Or is this attempted humor?

    Comment by Chris Albertson — October 17, 2009 @ 12:34 am
  21. Off the sub­ject of Wyn­ton (and don’t start me on that) here’s an extract from a blog I pub­lished late last year at jaz­zcon­tin­uum which shows that Cecil can be blamed for everything…

    Could Cecil Tay­lor have saved the IAJE?
    Ken Waxman’s website…recently posted a link to The Shape of Jazz to Come, my tran­scrip­tion of a panel dis­cus­sion at the IAJE con­fer­ence in 2000. Headed ‘The Prob­lems with “Jazz” Edu­ca­tion’, Wax­man sees in the fact that such a dis­cus­sion was needed ‘some hint as to why the IAJE ceased to exist… Too often a major part of jazz’s his­tory… was ignored by the so called schools of jazz, which con­cen­trated on more tra­di­tional and/or more con­ven­tional music.’

    I would agree that this could have been a con­trib­u­tory fac­tor in the col­lapse of IAJE, but iron­i­cally it could have been seen as a good thing if the mem­bers had risen up in revolt against the lack of a few sem­i­nars on the music of Cecil Tay­lor and caused the edi­fice to tum­ble. More pro­saically, and sadly more in keep­ing with the ethos of the organ­i­sa­tion, the truth, rumour has it, is buried in the finan­cial ledgers.

    Comment by Graham Collier — October 17, 2009 @ 3:54 am
  22. Chris, I’m pretty sure Alan is just try­ing to keep me in line … ;-)

    Comment by admin — October 17, 2009 @ 8:52 am
  23. I guess we’ll never know, but that’s a GREAT point, Gra­ham. I attended a school with one of the bet­ter stage band pro­grams in the South­west U.S. in the early ‘80s. Basie was the instruc­tors’ God, but even he couldn’t help you if you brought up names like Lester Bowie, Cecil Tay­lor, or Anthony Brax­ton. The seeds were planted …

    Comment by admin — October 17, 2009 @ 8:56 am
  24. […] Do you have your own opin­ion about Ken Burns’ movies about jazz his­tory? Here is one by Chirs Kelsey: “Eight years or how­ever long its been since that mutha uckin’ abom­i­na­tion known as Ken Burns’ Jazz first hit the air­waves, I finally watched the noto­ri­ous “Episode 10: A Mas­tur­ba­tion … I mean, A Mas­ter­piece by Mid­night,” wherein Burns and his jolly crew of self-serving revi­sion­ist idiots Bran­ford, Crouch and Cus­cuna, et al tell the bogus tale of how jazz was mur­dered in the ‘60s and ‘70s by craven fusioneers and face-painted avant-gardists, and how it was res­ur­rected by … well, by impli­ca­tion, the self-serving revi­sion­ist idiots them­selves, and by direct attri­bu­tion, their faux folksy fab­u­list trumpet-playing sock pup­pet, Wyn­ton Lear­son Marsalis.” Read his full shak­ing but mostly true arti­cle “It’s Never Too Late to Have Your Soul Crushed by Some Guy with a Huge Grant From Gen­eral Mo.… […]

    Pingback by Ken Burns and His Movies About Jazz History | Gaudeamus — October 20, 2009 @ 2:10 am
  25. The pre­ced­ing com­ment proves con­clu­sively that Chris Kelsey is a global phe­nom­e­non. For those too lazy to check out Gaudea­mus, it is the radio sta­tion of Kau­nas Uni­ver­sity of Tech­nol­ogy in Lithua­nia. “We select music very thor­oughly for our radio,” they explain help­fully in Eng­lish, “com­bin­ing some unusual and rare clas­sics with nowa­days com­po­si­tions hav­ing real sense of future. We are glad to tell that we have many fans in all over the world.” Who bet­ter, then, to receive the Gaudea­mus Seal of Approval than Kelsey? After all, as a writer Chris pro­vides unusual and rare insight into nowa­days com­po­si­tions hav­ing real sense of future. Thanks to Gaudea­mus, this shak­ing but mostly true blog­ger will soon have many fans in all over the world. As Lithua­ni­ans so pith­ily say, “Norëçiau nusi­plauti rankas!”

    Comment by Alan Kurtz — October 20, 2009 @ 1:07 pm
  26. Any coun­try that pro­duces a band like the Ganelin Trio is tops in my book!

    Comment by admin — October 20, 2009 @ 2:31 pm
  27. Hello from Gaudea­mus radio. The com­ments by jazz lovers are like jazz music in itself. It seems you begin to get it, but at the same moment it passes away. That’s because we like jazz. And the comments.

    Comment by Paulius — October 20, 2009 @ 3:01 pm
  28. Thanks, Paulius. Do you have a playlist? I was lis­ten­ing to your feed ear­lier, and I was hear­ing a lot of stuff I liked, but I couldn’t tell who they were. One track had an alto player who sounded a bit like Arthur Blythe (bright sound, fast vibrato). Any idea who it was?

    Comment by admin — October 20, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
  29. Chris, we do not anounce our playlist at the time. But we could look at data­base to check the tune if you remem­ber the exact time. By the way, you may see every tune which is played at the exact moment in the right side­bar “Now On Air” section.

    Comment by Paulius — October 21, 2009 @ 3:18 am
  30. It is a cult of nar­cis­sism that sur­rounds the W phe­nom­e­non. A text­book per­son­al­ity dis­or­der is at the root of it, a fact which mys­ti­fies most peo­ple. Nar­cis­sism sells big time in the New Jazz Order.

    Comment by Luke Kaven — October 23, 2009 @ 9:50 pm
  31. “…faux folksy fab­u­list trumpet-playing sock pup­pet…”
    Too true — and too funny!!!

    A lot of peo­ple used to talk about Him like this back then, but I won­der where they all are now. Have they got on board — or just become bored?
    So it’s good to find there’s still a small a pocket of resis­tance against His trade­mark self-righteous, self-obsessed, self-serving Uno­rig­i­nal Dis­ney­land Jass©®™ Band Neo-Orleans revi­sion­ist bull­shit at last…
    And if they have all got on board, then there’s even more need for a forum like this than there was then.

    Well said, Chris!!!

    Comment by John Morton — November 5, 2009 @ 1:03 pm
  32. I think a lot of peo­ple just got tired of lean­ing against the wind. I must con­fess to hav­ing the occa­sional cri­sis of con­fi­dence that’s led me to try to find good things to say about him at var­i­ous times, but I’ve never been able to keep it up. 

    In the ‘90s, at least one edi­tor at a major jazz pub­li­ca­tion gave me incred­i­ble resis­tance when I’d try to write any­thing neg­a­tive about Marsalis and/or his buddies. 

    In any case, we finally have free­dom of the press in the form of blogs and self-published books and self-produced CDs. I’m deter­mined to make up for lost time!

    Thanks, and wel­come, John!

    Comment by Chris — November 5, 2009 @ 1:15 pm

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